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quite the testimony there, from pecker. you had trump's attorney trying to pierce his credibility, making the case whether the former editor published these salacious stories about celebrities purchased them for future leverage he did so purely to improve his company's bottom line. is that something that stands in court? >> i think that pecker was a pretty strong witness. and given his intimate knowledge of how everything worked, and his relationship with donald trump over the years he came across as credible. i don't think donald trump's defense team really made a dent in his testimony. and by the time they get to closing arguments i think the highlights of testimony will be what the jurors remember. and, the fact that he was such a strong prosecution witness, pretty calm and collected going to the whole thing on the witness stand. he was pretty unflappable. you know, it's interesting to watch how donald trump is reacting to this. that was his friend. he didn't attack him unlike other witnesses. i wonder why. pecker knows
quite the testimony there, from pecker. you had trump's attorney trying to pierce his credibility, making the case whether the former editor published these salacious stories about celebrities purchased them for future leverage he did so purely to improve his company's bottom line. is that something that stands in court? >> i think that pecker was a pretty strong witness. and given his intimate knowledge of how everything worked, and his relationship with donald trump over the years he...
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former national inquirer publisher, david pecker, was the first to take the stand. testifying that he suppressed story about trump's scandals and spread lies about his rivals in the 2016 race. also known as fake news. pecker said he served as the " eyes and ears for the campaign at trump's on request. " then, rhona graff testified under subpoena, saying she remembered seeing stormy daniels in the trump tower lobby, and adding her contact info to the trump organization database. when court reconvenes, tuesday morning, there will be more testimony from the banker, who helped michael cohen pay off stormy daniels. now, here's some food for thought. as we hurtle into week two of trump's hush money election interference trial. if the supreme court rules as expected in the immunity case the case brought by district attorney alvin bragg could be trump's first and last criminal trial before the election. joining me now from a former federal prosecutor, legal affairs columnist for politico magazine. msnbc justice and legal affairs analyst, anthony coley, director of the justi
former national inquirer publisher, david pecker, was the first to take the stand. testifying that he suppressed story about trump's scandals and spread lies about his rivals in the 2016 race. also known as fake news. pecker said he served as the " eyes and ears for the campaign at trump's on request. " then, rhona graff testified under subpoena, saying she remembered seeing stormy daniels in the trump tower lobby, and adding her contact info to the trump organization database. when...
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they tried with his -- the fact that david pecker himself entered into a non pros. cushion agreement, but that doesn't mean that he's lying on the stand. it seems to be very credible. >> now, pecker also detailed making a payout to former playmate karen mcdougal to silence her account of an alleged affair with trump. yesterday trump's longtime assistant said that information for both mcdougal and stormy daniels were in trump's contact list, and pecker testified that he spoke with former white house staffer, hope hicks and sarah sanders, about an extension of mcdougal's hush money contract on a call with the white house. what do you think the jury took from all of that? >> well, i think that the jury can very easily take the fact that this was an organized scheme. this wasn't just the national enquirer, for example, acting on its own, buying stories that they just didn't want published in competitive -- in competitor's news publications, they were doing this for the purpose, for donald trump, to give him a benefit, a presidential benefit, a campaign benefit that. is
they tried with his -- the fact that david pecker himself entered into a non pros. cushion agreement, but that doesn't mean that he's lying on the stand. it seems to be very credible. >> now, pecker also detailed making a payout to former playmate karen mcdougal to silence her account of an alleged affair with trump. yesterday trump's longtime assistant said that information for both mcdougal and stormy daniels were in trump's contact list, and pecker testified that he spoke with former...
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david pecker has been admitting that. he recounts his dealing with the star witness michael cohen to buy in and bury stories, in order to protect president donald 's campaign. they allege an agreement to then hide financial footprints. they told the jury this will also be corroborated with evidence in , the defendant's own words, showing an illegal conspiracy. he said there is not an actual conspiracy charge in this case. that is true. the word conspiracy has a legal meaning and a more colloquial meaning if you have ever watched a mafia movie. they are saying they conspired together. they also attack the whole conspiracy theory, that he attacked through unlawful means. it would be needed to supersize this misdemeanor of financial fraud into a felony case. the trough defense has kind of said, well, maybe the da is being alarmist about what amounts to, however dirty, politics as usual. that is how they argue it. some proclaim there is nothing wrong with trying to influence and to collection. it is called democracy. the da h
david pecker has been admitting that. he recounts his dealing with the star witness michael cohen to buy in and bury stories, in order to protect president donald 's campaign. they allege an agreement to then hide financial footprints. they told the jury this will also be corroborated with evidence in , the defendant's own words, showing an illegal conspiracy. he said there is not an actual conspiracy charge in this case. that is true. the word conspiracy has a legal meaning and a more...
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david pecker did that. and on behalf of david pecker, he actually provided fodder for the prosecution to bolster everything he said a. once you establish that, it is easy for her to step in and say, i kept the rolodex and knew about some of the documents and the business records and for them to say this has been involved with these organizations. but i've been set up for mr. cohen that when he takes the stand he's only confirming. >> this comes after three days of testimony and you talk about david pecker, the former publisher of the national enquirer. will the hoping to establish and how engaged was the jury while listening to it? >> i was in the overflow room but the david pecker testimony was exactly what the prosecutors want to because he gave the foundation that everything that trump did -- everything that david pecker did after august 2015 when trump, michael cohen, and david pecker met and huddled and came up with a catch and kill scheme. all of this was in furtherance of the trump campaign and to he
david pecker did that. and on behalf of david pecker, he actually provided fodder for the prosecution to bolster everything he said a. once you establish that, it is easy for her to step in and say, i kept the rolodex and knew about some of the documents and the business records and for them to say this has been involved with these organizations. but i've been set up for mr. cohen that when he takes the stand he's only confirming. >> this comes after three days of testimony and you talk...
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he asked pecker if you felt cohen was prone to exaggeration. pecker agreed he was after court. trump weighed in on the trial, eight days that we sitting in courthouse. i just want to thank hey, everybody for being here michelle for through this, like everybody else. >> michael cohen's banker took the stand on friday afternoon, explaining to the dreo he helped set up a bank account for the shell company that cohen ultimately used to transfer the $130,000 payment stormy daniels, there's no court on monday, but the banker will be back on the stand tuesday, answering question from prosecutors before trump's lawyers get a turn at him. kara scannell, cnn, new york and coming up former us attorney general, bill barr says donald trump should not be anywhere near the oval office, yet he still plans to vote for him assignment with hottie cornish. >> listen wherever you get your podcasts pain means pause on the things you love. >> but brene me go cool the pain with bio free. and keep on going bio freeze. >> green means go verizon small business days are here. april 22 to the 28. get a fre
he asked pecker if you felt cohen was prone to exaggeration. pecker agreed he was after court. trump weighed in on the trial, eight days that we sitting in courthouse. i just want to thank hey, everybody for being here michelle for through this, like everybody else. >> michael cohen's banker took the stand on friday afternoon, explaining to the dreo he helped set up a bank account for the shell company that cohen ultimately used to transfer the $130,000 payment stormy daniels, there's no...
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what you heard from david pecker was about that agreement, that donald trump, david pecker, and michael cohen had to unlawfully influence the election. and they talked about and testified about this 2016 meeting where they anticipated that women may come forward and have damaging stories about trump that could hurt the campaign. david pecker testified that he was going to be the eyes and ears of this campaign, and that he was going to alert michael cohen and the campaign about anything that would be damaging so, to make sure those stories didn't see the light of day. however, what is really significant, for the conversations pecker testified, dealing directly with donald trump. both before the election and after the election. before the election, testified about talking to him about the story, trying to kill the story with karen mcdougal. after the election, he testified about conversations where donald trump thanked him for making sure those damaging stories did not see the light of day. the defense tried to act as though this was all business as usual, but that really backfired, becau
what you heard from david pecker was about that agreement, that donald trump, david pecker, and michael cohen had to unlawfully influence the election. and they talked about and testified about this 2016 meeting where they anticipated that women may come forward and have damaging stories about trump that could hurt the campaign. david pecker testified that he was going to be the eyes and ears of this campaign, and that he was going to alert michael cohen and the campaign about anything that...
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pecker testified they also tried to show how pecker had other reasons since beyond just helping trump win the white house for running negative stories about trump's opponents. pecker testified that his magazine ran stories about bill and hillary clinton prior to the 2015 trump tower meeting were an agreement to help trump was allegedly breached running those stories was beneficial to ami pecker testified after his testimony wrapped up, prosecutors used the last few hours of the de to call two additional witnesses. the first was trump's longtime assistant, rhona. >> let me add the cost rhona graff was a fixture in trump's office for decades. she testified how before trump became president and she was his gatekeeper, keeping close track of his contacts, emails, phone calls, and meetings. >> she told the jury it was a very stimulating, exciting, fascinating place to be court is not in session on monday, but the trial will resume on tuesday. likely wrapping up a banking associate who work closely with michael cohen to build the shell company that he used to pay stormy daniels. and then it
pecker testified they also tried to show how pecker had other reasons since beyond just helping trump win the white house for running negative stories about trump's opponents. pecker testified that his magazine ran stories about bill and hillary clinton prior to the 2015 trump tower meeting were an agreement to help trump was allegedly breached running those stories was beneficial to ami pecker testified after his testimony wrapped up, prosecutors used the last few hours of the de to call two...
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david pecker has no information about a crime against trump. you heard tabloid goes -- gossip, soap opera drama, and i'm going to be honest with you, the president is quite happy with the first week. one other point. what you heard about president trump, other celebrities in order to if protect their brand had this same experience with david pecker. to so i'll challenge any attorney to show me any evidence against trump that was developed last week. there was nothing. bryan: so the prosecution is looking at david perk as their first -- pecker as their first witness, and there are the analysis lists saying he set the base for the central argument of their case which is this was the about election interference. these payments weren't about trying to hide salacious details that would harm the reputation of his family or himself, but this was about making sure that his 2016 campaign was not stymied by this salacious stuff. that was the purpose of david peck or going out there -- pecker going out there and starting this case. are you saying at the d
david pecker has no information about a crime against trump. you heard tabloid goes -- gossip, soap opera drama, and i'm going to be honest with you, the president is quite happy with the first week. one other point. what you heard about president trump, other celebrities in order to if protect their brand had this same experience with david pecker. to so i'll challenge any attorney to show me any evidence against trump that was developed last week. there was nothing. bryan: so the prosecution...
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then he even says, pecker is a nice guy. sending the message to pecker. how do you think the judge should proceed? >> they say, if you say to your child, be home by midnight, and your child comes home at 12:30, he will keep coming home at 12:30. when judges rule and are very clear about what is permissible or not permissible, and there is a direct violation of that ruling, it will continue to happen. i expect judge mershon. i think that is exactly what will happen. judge merchan will find 10 or 12 violations of the gag order and find the defendant for violating that. and violating the judicial rulings. the direct violations of the gag order. you are referencing this earlier. you are loosening all credibility with the court. talk to me about what you expect to see with the gag order. is there any way that puts them in bond bars -- behind bars for a day? look, he's been strong in the court. generally, he told trump to sit down and he sits down. he's been diminished. that's the good news. he doesn't have much to work with. he has these fines of $1000 of viol
then he even says, pecker is a nice guy. sending the message to pecker. how do you think the judge should proceed? >> they say, if you say to your child, be home by midnight, and your child comes home at 12:30, he will keep coming home at 12:30. when judges rule and are very clear about what is permissible or not permissible, and there is a direct violation of that ruling, it will continue to happen. i expect judge mershon. i think that is exactly what will happen. judge merchan will find...
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david pecker . correct. court cannot be back in session until tuesday but the breakdown is happening right now. running me is joyce vance and hugo lowell. we were in new york at the same time for this title. david credibility. he was saying donald trump, he considered to be his mentor. yet, to his credit, even on cross examination by the defense attorney for donald trump, david pecker stood his ground. he held the line and said this was all to help influence the outcome by benefiting donald trump's campaign. >> "the national enquirer" wanted to protect this trump and this came through all through the testimony. it was extremely significant because trump was hoping or trumps lawyers were hoping to a certain extent they would be able to suggest that he was disgruntled, that they hadn't been friends for some time. they didn't have close connections anymore. but, with david pecker going on the stand and say i find as a mentor and i like his business deals and consider him a good guy as far as he was concerned, i
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he asked pecker if you felt cohen was prone to exaggeration? pecker agreed he was after court, trump weighed in on the trial eight days that we all sitting in courthouse. i just want to thank everybody. i'm michele for through this, like everybody else michael cohen's banker took the stand on friday afternoon, explaining to the dreo he helped set up a bank account for the shell company that cohen ultimately used to transfer the $130,000 payment stormy daniels, there's no court on monday, but the banker will be back on the stand tuesday, answering question from prosecutors before trump's lawyers get a turn at him. >> kara scannell, cnn, new york former president donald trump will also have a key hearing next week on the gag order against him. thursday morning. judge, merchan will weigh prosecutors arguments that trump violated the order four more times this week when he talked about michael cohen, david pecker, and the jury. that's an addition to ten other incidents which he is accused of violating the order joining us right now, camille vasco a
he asked pecker if you felt cohen was prone to exaggeration? pecker agreed he was after court, trump weighed in on the trial eight days that we all sitting in courthouse. i just want to thank everybody. i'm michele for through this, like everybody else michael cohen's banker took the stand on friday afternoon, explaining to the dreo he helped set up a bank account for the shell company that cohen ultimately used to transfer the $130,000 payment stormy daniels, there's no court on monday, but...
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pecker, part of his testimony seemed to actually help donald trump. i mean, he was a prosecution witness, but he said he had done the nda's, so-called catch and grab schemes, buy a story that somebody didn't want to get out. he did it for around schwarzenegger, did it for tiger woods. it may be unseemly, but it's not illegal, right? >> absolutely, it's not illegal. and based upon the prosecutor's case, sits determining whether they're trying to win on a criminal conviction or trying to get sordid details out. we don't know precisely what they're accusing donald trump of doing criminally. and they have to show that he falsified records in order to further some other crime. to this day that has not been affirmatively disclosed by the prosecution and there are many convoluted theories out there that don't quite add up. david: yeah, but tom, i was talking to annie mccarthy earlier. maybe there are a couple of lawyers on the jury, but the others don't know if it's legal or not. and the judge isn't telling them. isn't it the role of the judge to explain whe
pecker, part of his testimony seemed to actually help donald trump. i mean, he was a prosecution witness, but he said he had done the nda's, so-called catch and grab schemes, buy a story that somebody didn't want to get out. he did it for around schwarzenegger, did it for tiger woods. it may be unseemly, but it's not illegal, right? >> absolutely, it's not illegal. and based upon the prosecutor's case, sits determining whether they're trying to win on a criminal conviction or trying to...
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pecker allows them to do that. then they have to put in witnesses who will have to walk through some of the routine legal things like how do you get into the documents for let's bring in the banker. how do you verify it is his email server? you bring in his assistance but having pecker as the first witness gives them a road map of where they are going and i think the trump team knew it wasn't going to be michael cohen first. there was no antagonistic fireworks right away. they were careful with pecker to not beat him up on the stand. he still considers donald trump a friend. i am interesting -- i think it will be fascinating. she, again, has known him for so long. she was working at star magazine that she goes way back with donald trump. >> she was in that crucial meeting in august 2015 where they cooked up this plan where david pecker would be the eyes and ears of the campaign and she was walking in and out of the meeting. what did she hear? i think that will go to corroborate michael cohen when he gets on the ste
pecker allows them to do that. then they have to put in witnesses who will have to walk through some of the routine legal things like how do you get into the documents for let's bring in the banker. how do you verify it is his email server? you bring in his assistance but having pecker as the first witness gives them a road map of where they are going and i think the trump team knew it wasn't going to be michael cohen first. there was no antagonistic fireworks right away. they were careful with...
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greg -- picker -- can pecker. gregg jarrett joins us now. do you think with any of these initial three witnesses the prosecution landed any punches on donald trump? >> no, will, i don't think so at all. after a week of testimony, they have yet to present any evidence of anything unlawful. and i think it underscores just how weak and pathetic the case is. david pecker helped trump more than hurt him, testifying his "national enquirer" buried stories all the time for a whole host of celebrities, so this wasn't just donald trump. and, you know, killing a story, that's not a crime. silencing somebody through an nda, that's not illegal. you went to law school, you know this. they're not even in the indictment, trump's not charged with it. so bragg is implying that trump's shady dealings with the tabloid somehow equals criminality. well, it doesn't. i called it in a column this week filth by association which is a sleazy prosecutor's trick. but, you know, i think after a week, will, these jurors are still wondering where in the world is the crime
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pecker said i've been truthful to the best of my recollection. trump's long time executive assistant took the stand yesterday, that's her right there. said her boss of about 30 years was fair and respectful. graph said she haggly remembers seeing stormy daniels in trump tower before the 2016 election and daniels claims she had an affair with donald trump. meanwhile the former president and current president taking shots on the campaign trail and president biden made use yesterday announcing he's willing to debate his opponent here and he is with howard stern. >> i don't know if you're going to debate your opponent. >> i am somewhere, i don't know when. i'm happy to debate him. >> former president trump said bring it on. >> inviting biden to debate. he can do it any time he wants, including tonight. i'm ready. i invite him to the courthouse and the demonstrations and it's going through washington and it's a coordinated attack on a political opponent. pete: thank you, david. will: we had former acting attorney general here on the program a little b
pecker said i've been truthful to the best of my recollection. trump's long time executive assistant took the stand yesterday, that's her right there. said her boss of about 30 years was fair and respectful. graph said she haggly remembers seeing stormy daniels in trump tower before the 2016 election and daniels claims she had an affair with donald trump. meanwhile the former president and current president taking shots on the campaign trail and president biden made use yesterday announcing...
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he asked pecker if you felt cohen was prone to exaggeration. pecker agreed he was after court. trump weighed in on the trial, eight days that we sitting in this courthouse i just want to thank everybody for being here. >> this, is like. everybody else michael cohen's bank or took the stand friday afternoon, he described to the jury how he helped cohen set up the shell company that was ultimately used to transfer the $130,000 payment to stormy daniels. >> there's no court on monday, so the banker will be back on the stand tuesday. we're prosecutors will continue to question him then, donald trump's attorneys will get a chance to cross-examine him as his trial continues into next week, amara victor, kara scannell. thanks so much and doing now by former federal prosecutor, at least we'll good morning to you. let me start here with david pecker and then kind of go through some of the other witnesses. the prosecution. they spent several hours with him trying to get him to explain the process of these catch and kill. the defense then went and tried to undermine some of the testimony
he asked pecker if you felt cohen was prone to exaggeration. pecker agreed he was after court. trump weighed in on the trial, eight days that we sitting in this courthouse i just want to thank everybody for being here. >> this, is like. everybody else michael cohen's bank or took the stand friday afternoon, he described to the jury how he helped cohen set up the shell company that was ultimately used to transfer the $130,000 payment to stormy daniels. >> there's no court on monday,...
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so we did still get some compelling testimony from the remainder of david pecker's testimony, as well as those two other witnesses. one thing that is clear from the wheat when it says that we heard from miss that there was this conspiracy he to get this caching kill scheme, the catch and kill scheme to affect the campaign, to effect the election. in terms of the last two witnesses, we got confirmation from the banker that yes. michael cohen did open up an account. it open a shell company in order to get payment to stormy daniels. that's as far as we got in terms of the longtime assistant, all we heard is that we got confirmation that donald trump did have the contact information for karen mcdougal, as well as stormy daniels, and that stormy daniels was the at trump plaza at least on one occasion, but nothing that really stood out that was so bombshell that will stand out too. jury documentary evidence that he produced sort of establishing the timeline and the importance of getting those payments done before the election that will be crucial, right? absolutely. the urgency. so we learn
so we did still get some compelling testimony from the remainder of david pecker's testimony, as well as those two other witnesses. one thing that is clear from the wheat when it says that we heard from miss that there was this conspiracy he to get this caching kill scheme, the catch and kill scheme to affect the campaign, to effect the election. in terms of the last two witnesses, we got confirmation from the banker that yes. michael cohen did open up an account. it open a shell company in...
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and it was a tweet just cameinsf out during the cross of pecker. trump's defense attorney, emil bovee ha, had been repeatedlypei referring to trump as president trump when referencing periodso of time when trump was not in office. the d.a.'s office keeps objectinctine mercg and judge mn keeps sustaining those t objections. so okay, convict him of usinheg the wrong title for trump at that timthe. . >> this is this is where we are like mean. >>, en pretty powerful that one. that's pretty crummy. we call president obamt obthat't president. that's crazy that you wouldn't call a former president th's the president. that's that's their title for the rest of their lives. and it just shows you hos.and es process is. and even though the evidence is completele legay the legal allegations are completely bogus, you still have a clearlyo biased judge this juan merchan who donated biden donated to another anti-trump cause. his adult daughter has raised $100 million on this case. he shoul.d recused. >> he didn't recuse. you have this soros partttan, manhattan d.a
and it was a tweet just cameinsf out during the cross of pecker. trump's defense attorney, emil bovee ha, had been repeatedlypei referring to trump as president trump when referencing periodso of time when trump was not in office. the d.a.'s office keeps objectinctine mercg and judge mn keeps sustaining those t objections. so okay, convict him of usinheg the wrong title for trump at that timthe. . >> this is this is where we are like mean. >>, en pretty powerful that one. that's...
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jeff sessions because david pecker, this national enquirer tabloid king, he got concerned at one point when he got a letter from the fec and he called michael cohen, then trump's personal attorney to voice concern about that. michael cohen told him not to worry because geoff sessions is the attorney general and donald trump has him in his pocket. did trump expect his ag to go easy on his friends i don't know. i don't know what he expected what was your experience? >> my experience was why the time i came in, he did not he did not push me to do one thing or another on these criminal cases. now we tweeted and mavi, his public views on things known, but he never talked to me about them directly, so we did not have you in his pocket. he would argue it's not a question of arguing. i did what i thought was right. >> and you never felt any direct pressure from him on what investigations the doj you did not directly pressure may as i say, he was out there tweeting and doing things that were embarrassing and made it hard for me to run the department that sounds like pressure wasn't pressure. it
jeff sessions because david pecker, this national enquirer tabloid king, he got concerned at one point when he got a letter from the fec and he called michael cohen, then trump's personal attorney to voice concern about that. michael cohen told him not to worry because geoff sessions is the attorney general and donald trump has him in his pocket. did trump expect his ag to go easy on his friends i don't know. i don't know what he expected what was your experience? >> my experience was why...
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pecker said, yes. steinglass said, but at the time you entered into that agreement, you had zero intention of publishing that story. pecker said that's correct. and the prosecutor said, and despite the fact that publishing that story would have helped your bottom line, you killed the story because it helped the candidate donald trump. pecker said, yes. so their counter and cutting against the standard operating procedure, obviously, if this was national enquirer gold and they would have made a fortune off the headline. they decided not to publish it and that was the point prosecutors we're trying to push this was for donald trump's candidacy, not for the bottom line. that's also prosecution gold. >> i mean, to get him to admit that i was willing to do something that was contrary to my bottom line to help a candidate that's exactly what they need to say. >> and that's what the prosecution's trying to do in order to make michael cohen irrelevant, frankly. >> and could you just explain to me because i don
pecker said, yes. steinglass said, but at the time you entered into that agreement, you had zero intention of publishing that story. pecker said that's correct. and the prosecutor said, and despite the fact that publishing that story would have helped your bottom line, you killed the story because it helped the candidate donald trump. pecker said, yes. so their counter and cutting against the standard operating procedure, obviously, if this was national enquirer gold and they would have made a...
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pecker testified, they also tried to show how pecker had other reasons beyond just helping trump win the white house for running negative stories about trump's opponents. pecker testified that his magazine ran stories about bill and hillary clinton prior to the 20 trump tower meeting we're in agreement to help trump was allegedly breached running those stories was beneficial to ami pecker testified after his testimony wrapped up, prosecutors used the last few hours of the de to call two additional witnesses. >> the first was trump's long time assistants, rhona, let me add to call split's rhona graff was a fixture in trump's office for decades. >> she testified how before trump became president, she was his gatekeeper keeping close track of his contacts, emails, phone calls, and meetings. she told the jury it was a very stimulating exciting fascinating place to be there is no court on monday, so on tuesday they'll likely wrap up with michael cohen's a banker, and then it's not clear who the next big witness will be. they have not said a publicly. >> we're also waiting earned for the j
pecker testified, they also tried to show how pecker had other reasons beyond just helping trump win the white house for running negative stories about trump's opponents. pecker testified that his magazine ran stories about bill and hillary clinton prior to the 20 trump tower meeting we're in agreement to help trump was allegedly breached running those stories was beneficial to ami pecker testified after his testimony wrapped up, prosecutors used the last few hours of the de to call two...
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david pecker was defined at one point, saying "i've been truthful to the best of my recollection ." the tabloid mogul also undermined the idea that trump wanted to bury those stories about women to protect his family, a common refrain from the defense. instead, he said he believed it was all to protect his campaign. >> i do have to begin by wishing melania trump happy birthday. >> reporter: melania trump was notably absent at trial. >> court will not based on session monday so the trial resumes tuesday at 9:30. with that, let's bring in our leadoff panel, john allen, politics reporter for nbc. eugene scott, senior politics reporter fracks yes, and the former federal prosecutor and senior writer for political magazine. thank you for joining us. trump's former longtime executive assistant testified for half an hour. she was known as "the gatekeeper" and set a company directory and numbers for stormy daniels and karen mcdougal. she also said the trump organization was paying her legal bills. why, what did the prosecution gain from her testimony? >> they introduced a small fact, which i
david pecker was defined at one point, saying "i've been truthful to the best of my recollection ." the tabloid mogul also undermined the idea that trump wanted to bury those stories about women to protect his family, a common refrain from the defense. instead, he said he believed it was all to protect his campaign. >> i do have to begin by wishing melania trump happy birthday. >> reporter: melania trump was notably absent at trial. >> court will not based on session...
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david pecker may have done. to they're trying to attribute david's packers knowledgeinance of campaign finance violations to donald trump. there shouldn' vdonaldt been a e instruction right then and there by the court there tht cannot assume that because david pecker knew something that donal that d trump knew its but this is this is the kind of case that an inexperienced political operative is trying ae in manhattan. and let me just say one more thing. thisin m gag order. the gag order was to make sureti that the president did not make or direct others to make o a public statement. when donald trump repeats untruths. i so so what other people have said he is not makinnot makig oe directing them to make public statements. and that's why he is not h holding him in contempt yet because it is so written. these people are so incensed, so full of hatl of hate that tho anything to keep this man down. and ye anyt he goes outside, he talks to construction workers, he goes to a bodega, they cheer him. he goes to kentucky
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witness, david pecker, largely stood his ground despite trump's legal team attempting to undermine his testimony by claiming the deals to bury stories like karen mcdougal and stormy daniels were standard operating procedure. the second witness, donald trump's former executive assistant, monograph, provided testimony that she entered karen mcdougal's and stormy daniels contact information to the trump organization database. third, we had gary ferro, former manager at first republic bank, which prosecutors say michael: used to obtain a $130,000 home equity loan which michael cohen later funneled to stormy daniels through a shell company. friday, he authenticated bank records which prosecutors showed to jurors. that testimony will continue in trial resumes tuesday morning. prosecutors are using his testimony to authenticate documents related to the transaction. that testimony continues when the trial resumes tuesday morning. judge merchan announced a gag order hearing will take place thursday, to hear new arguments about all of the alleged violations that donald trump has committed this w
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it was david pecker who testified. and explained how this whole thing worked to buy and bury negative stories through the tabloids to boost the campaign. was that your purpose locking up the story about the play mate to influence the election? and he confirmed yes. pecker details how they worked with cohen. we will show you headlines that are for the most part false. a false allegation about then trump competitor marco rubio. another one. i can show you. let me look at the next one. infamously going after ted cruz. pecker testifying that story was knowingly manufactured. right down to the doctored photo. however bad it looks they said it was not a trump campaign thing. it is just how they roll. they brought up arnold schwarzenegger and that deal. pecker said the agreement i had with arnold is i would advise him about stories out there. acquire them. buy them for a period of time. defense highlighting cohen didn't pay him back for the mcdougal story to get jurors to doubt if this was a trump campaign thing. i spoke to h
it was david pecker who testified. and explained how this whole thing worked to buy and bury negative stories through the tabloids to boost the campaign. was that your purpose locking up the story about the play mate to influence the election? and he confirmed yes. pecker details how they worked with cohen. we will show you headlines that are for the most part false. a false allegation about then trump competitor marco rubio. another one. i can show you. let me look at the next one. infamously...
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the prosecution starts with the blockbuster witness, david pecker. now they are moving into the nitty-gritty. what kind of strategy goes into the sequence here? >> i think it is largely chronological, so far, as i can see it. they are just trying to lay out, tell the story in a simple chronological fashion, the best way to tell a story often is chronologically. but, i think that is what is happening here. i expect at some point, perhaps even next week, they are going to need to start to move into, okay, how are these records, how are these payments booked internally within the trump organization. maybe next week or the following week, at some point, the trial needs to get there. that is the meat and potatoes of the actual charges against trump. >> eugene, trump keeps complaining about the trial keeping him off the campaign trail and wednesday, when, you know, wednesday was his one day off from court this week, and he went golfing. obviously, he doesn't want to be in court but is it fair to say he doesn't seem to care that much about campaigning eithe
the prosecution starts with the blockbuster witness, david pecker. now they are moving into the nitty-gritty. what kind of strategy goes into the sequence here? >> i think it is largely chronological, so far, as i can see it. they are just trying to lay out, tell the story in a simple chronological fashion, the best way to tell a story often is chronologically. but, i think that is what is happening here. i expect at some point, perhaps even next week, they are going to need to start to...
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it had david pecker who wrapped up more than ten hours or testimony over a period of four days, he was as also trump's former longtime assistant, rhona graff, who was only on the stand for what, a half an hour, then michael cohen's former banker, gary farro, who is likely to continue testifying this coming tuesday the prosecution wants jurist remember, pecker's testimony that his intention was to never publish karen mcdougal story of an alleged affair with trump from the transcript, he said, had you published a story about a playboy model having a year long sexual affair while he was married with a presidential candidate without that have sold magazines. see if think his answer. >> yes, that'd be like national enquirer gold. >> yes. >> going on to say and despite the fact that publishing that story would have helped your bottom line, you killed the story because it helped the candidate donald trump yes and then there was a rhona graff, trump's longtime gatekeeper over at the trump organization. >> her desk was at one point just outside of trump's office from the defensive standpoint, s
it had david pecker who wrapped up more than ten hours or testimony over a period of four days, he was as also trump's former longtime assistant, rhona graff, who was only on the stand for what, a half an hour, then michael cohen's former banker, gary farro, who is likely to continue testifying this coming tuesday the prosecution wants jurist remember, pecker's testimony that his intention was to never publish karen mcdougal story of an alleged affair with trump from the transcript, he said,...
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let's go back to the idea of david pecker. the defense team, the trump team was trying to make this come across as standard. this catch and kill idea is standard, happens to a lot of people. and pecker was saying this was actually in furtherance of something more serious. this wasn't the typical catch a story and kill it. there are probably reasons why you would take on a story, pay somebody for it and kill it, but pecker said the unfinished part and this was in furtherance of what donald trump was trying to achieve. >> absolutely and that came across on redirect examination. what happened was the defense attorney has presented what one would call the casablanca defense. there is gambling. ami does this over and over again, that they by people stories. not unusual. in the prosecutor on redirect honed in on the differences. that there has never, even though they have, ami has quashed stories of celebrities and even political figures in the past, they have never been the eyes and ears of a presidential campaign. they have never
let's go back to the idea of david pecker. the defense team, the trump team was trying to make this come across as standard. this catch and kill idea is standard, happens to a lot of people. and pecker was saying this was actually in furtherance of something more serious. this wasn't the typical catch a story and kill it. there are probably reasons why you would take on a story, pay somebody for it and kill it, but pecker said the unfinished part and this was in furtherance of what donald trump...
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again he says pecker says, yes. so cyclists, if i understand you correctly, running stories that praise mr. trump appealed to your readership. packers says yes, they did what they were doing here was suppressing these stories that appeal to the rigueur ship in a way that later on in this, he does say this was actually against our interest because we could have made a ton of money on this story but chose not to because it was in our interest to help out donald. >> how does that play marcus? >> well, i think it plays well, honestly, for the for the government's case, when we go to the reputation of, your going through these themes like instead of being the national enquirer where i'm going to post these trump stories. i'm going to keep it because i wanted to win the election and that's really important for proven up in the misdemeanor to the felony sayyed this false business records claims, and i don't know. i've heard a lot of commentators say that they don't think that the campaign part is a strong, i don't know. we
again he says pecker says, yes. so cyclists, if i understand you correctly, running stories that praise mr. trump appealed to your readership. packers says yes, they did what they were doing here was suppressing these stories that appeal to the rigueur ship in a way that later on in this, he does say this was actually against our interest because we could have made a ton of money on this story but chose not to because it was in our interest to help out donald. >> how does that play...
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pecker. we will talk about how that went in just a second, but today we got to see the prosecution second witness. someone who worked closely with donald trump for decades, including on tv. >> hi, good morning, this is mr. trump's office. >> hi, good morning. mr. trump would like to meet you at 9:00 at tavern on the green. >> good morning, it is rhona calling. mr. trump is meeting with miss universe at trump model management. do you think you'll be ready? >> we can do it. thanks, rhona. >> thanks, rhona. rhona graff, donald trump's longtime executive assistant and occasional costar on the apprentice. the prosecution appears to have called her because she is the person who handled trump's calendar and contacts and email, which trump himself does not use. ms. graf appeared in court under subpoena and testified her legal bills were being paid for by the trump organization, even though she does not work there anymore. so while rhona graff was not a hostile witness, it is a safe bet she didn't rea
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pecker said yes. so their counter and cutting against the standard operating procedure, obviously, if this was national enquirer gold and they would have made a fortune off the headline. they just decided not to publish it and that was the point prosecutors we're trying to push that. this was for donald trump's candidacy, not for the bottom line. that's prosecution gold. i mean, to get him to admit that i was willing to do something that was contrary to my bottom line. >> to help a candidate that's exactly what they need to say. >> and that's what the prosecution's trying to do in order to make michael cohen irrelevant, frankly, could you just explain to me because i don't understand how is that a crime? how's that an element of the crimes are the elements that the judge is going to read after the summation. >> so this crime is a bump up crime, right? it's basically a misdemeanor plus so the misdemeanor is if you falsified business records, i think everybody thinks that's the easier part to prove. all
pecker said yes. so their counter and cutting against the standard operating procedure, obviously, if this was national enquirer gold and they would have made a fortune off the headline. they just decided not to publish it and that was the point prosecutors we're trying to push that. this was for donald trump's candidacy, not for the bottom line. that's prosecution gold. i mean, to get him to admit that i was willing to do something that was contrary to my bottom line. >> to help a...
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so, david pecker testified. he consulted with an election attorney, a special attorney who does election law. and then he ran the karen mcdougal agreement by his own company's general counsel, their top lawyer. now, both of those are privileged conversations between attorney and client so david pecker didn't go into details. but, a prosecutor asked him based on that conversation, did you come to the decision you no longer wanted to be reimbursed for the money that ami had laid out to acquire karen mcdougal's lifetime rate ? david pecker responded, "yes, that is correct." "i called michael cohen, i said the agreement, the assignment deal is off. i'm not going forward. it is a bad idea. i want you to rip up the agreement. " in other words, david pecker had a brush with this in the past, campaign finance law and how it is located in a catch and kill scheme for a candidate, thought about them doing the same thing here, had a talk with his lawyer, decided receiving the money for the express purpose of paying off trum
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pecker, yes. and the fact that pecker agreed to not publish a story about a playboy model's year-long alleged affair with a presidential candidate is only further proof this is not just about doing good business because pecker admitted such a story would have been, quote, "national enquirer" gold. the prosecution asked, at the time you entered into the agreement, you had zero intention of publication even if it would have helped the bottom line. you killed it because it would have hurt president trump. to which pecker answered, correct. and before the court wrapped for the week, the jury heard from two other witnesses, first was trump's longtime assistant and gate keeper, rhona graff, for a brief line of questioning authenticating both karen mcdougal and stormy daniels' contact information were in trump's computer. during cross-examination, she did admit to hearing conversations about daniels potentially being thought of as a contestant for celebrity apprentice. the other witness is much more obsc
pecker, yes. and the fact that pecker agreed to not publish a story about a playboy model's year-long alleged affair with a presidential candidate is only further proof this is not just about doing good business because pecker admitted such a story would have been, quote, "national enquirer" gold. the prosecution asked, at the time you entered into the agreement, you had zero intention of publication even if it would have helped the bottom line. you killed it because it would have...
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helped more. >> david pecker definitely helped the prosecution out because they laid out david pecker hur laid out the foundation. he gave us the background information, and he also changed the narrative. this is not just hush money case. we're talking about the purpose of this money. of killing di stories. what's that help this campaign? and you're hearing it from someone that i think was relatable to this jury. i think the jury's going to find him credible, find, and believable. so mendel, he was engaging in these catching kill schemes and when we go into a supermarket used to see the national enquirer be like, oh, my god. and now we know how that gets to be the front page of the paper. you got the information that this is exactly how it worked out when it came to donald trump and when it came to michael cohen. and this is something that i think the jury in plain terms, are able to digest and they don't know how to apply this information. but shortly after closing arguments and though extra read back to get more of his testimony, read back, there'll be able to put it all together. s
helped more. >> david pecker definitely helped the prosecution out because they laid out david pecker hur laid out the foundation. he gave us the background information, and he also changed the narrative. this is not just hush money case. we're talking about the purpose of this money. of killing di stories. what's that help this campaign? and you're hearing it from someone that i think was relatable to this jury. i think the jury's going to find him credible, find, and believable. so...
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you had three witnesses, had you pecker finishing up. you had a records custodian who was trump's former gate keeper. trump organization is paying for testimony and she obviously likes him and gave good testimony for him. and then you have a banker that dealt with michael cohen. so very, very unevent full. the needle wasn't moved at all. >> laura: at one point it god so absurd, mike, that the d.a.'s office was objecting to the defense attorney referencing president trump -- i mean as president trump as president trump saying that and it was a tweet just came out, during the cross of pecker, trump's defense attorney bove had repeatedly been referring to president trump as president trump when referencing periods of time when trump was not in office. the d.a.'s office keeps objecting and judge merchan keeps sustaining those objections. so, okay. convict him of using the wrong title for trump at that time. this is where we are, mike. >> mike: i mean. >> laura: i howled at that one. we called president obama, president obama. that's crazy yo
you had three witnesses, had you pecker finishing up. you had a records custodian who was trump's former gate keeper. trump organization is paying for testimony and she obviously likes him and gave good testimony for him. and then you have a banker that dealt with michael cohen. so very, very unevent full. the needle wasn't moved at all. >> laura: at one point it god so absurd, mike, that the d.a.'s office was objecting to the defense attorney referencing president trump -- i mean as...
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he asked pecker if he felt cohen was prone to exaggeration pecker agreed he was after court, trump weighed in on the trial eight days that we sitting in this courthouse. >> i just want to thank everybody for being here you have to separate through this hey, everybody else michael cohen's banker would then took the witness stand in the afternoon and he was describing how he helped michael cohen's setup the bank account that he ultimately used for the shell company that transferred that $130,000 payment to stormy daniels. >> there's no court on monday, but this banker will be back on the stand tuesday for more questioning by prosecutors before trump's lawyers will get a turn at him. >> wolf, kara scannell outside the courthouse in new york. thanks very much. i want to bring in our legal experts right now, cnn's katelyn polantz and norm eisen are here and former trump attorney tim parlatore is here as well. and caitlin, let me start with you. i want to read an interesting line from michael cohen's banker, gary pharaoh. this is what gary farro testifying. every time michael cohen's spoke to me
he asked pecker if he felt cohen was prone to exaggeration pecker agreed he was after court, trump weighed in on the trial eight days that we sitting in this courthouse. >> i just want to thank everybody for being here you have to separate through this hey, everybody else michael cohen's banker would then took the witness stand in the afternoon and he was describing how he helped michael cohen's setup the bank account that he ultimately used for the shell company that transferred that...
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pecker saying how they worked with cohen. i'm going to show you the head lines that are for the most part false, a false allegation about trump competitor marco rubio. another one i can show you. let me look at the next one. infamously going after ted cruz. pecker testifying that story was knowingly manufactured right down to the doctored photo. trump's lawyers said this was a routine thing they did. however bad it looks, it was not a trump campaign thing, it's how they roll. they brought up arnold schwarzenegger, the deal i had with an nold, i would acquire them, buy them for a period of time. defense saying cohen didn't pay the enquirer back for the mcdougall story. that's trying to get the jurors to doubt whether this was a trump campaign thing or maybe just an enquirer thing. now mcdougall, who you see on the screen, i spoke to her lawyer back in 2019, keith davidson, who told us this. >> the affairs happened in 2006. michael cohen and i first contacted each other about the matter in 2011. so at a minimum they knew about
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they focused on a key august 2015 meeting at trump tower with pecker& trump and cohen were pecker said he agreed to be the eyes and ears for the trump campaign, flagging any negative stories about trump to michael cohen the defense asked, did you ever are specifically use the term catch and kill in the meeting and pecker replied, no, i did not but then under redirect questioning from the prosecution, pecker reiterated the contents of the 2015 meeting, saying my understanding is those stories that come up, i would speak to michael cohen and tell them these are the stories that are going to be for sale that if we don't buy them somebody else will and then michael cohen would handle by them or trying to make sure that they don't ever get published unquote. so even if the term catch and kill wasn't used you wrote a book called catch and kill. is that not catching gill that is the definition of this colloquial term that has emerged around this catch and kill, which was a term that i and other journalists around this first started during from ami employees it was something of what's called a
they focused on a key august 2015 meeting at trump tower with pecker& trump and cohen were pecker said he agreed to be the eyes and ears for the trump campaign, flagging any negative stories about trump to michael cohen the defense asked, did you ever are specifically use the term catch and kill in the meeting and pecker replied, no, i did not but then under redirect questioning from the prosecution, pecker reiterated the contents of the 2015 meeting, saying my understanding is those...
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the answer from david pecker, quote, yes. he added, the actual purpose was to acquire lifetime rights so it was not published by any other news organization. pecker said it was standard to suppress stories to help a friend or to use as leverage with a celebrity, this was catch and kill in order to influence a presidential election. now with court adjourned for the weekend, it's all systems go as we head into next week with key testimony still ahead. this is where we start the hour with some of our most favorite reports and friends. two people inside the courtroom today, investigative reporter susan craig and former u.s. attorney and former deputy assistant attorney general harry litman. lucky for us, andrew is still here as is lockland. sue, we start with you and your wonderful notebook. >> i have to say i think the most interesting part of today was the contination of that agreement that karen mcdougal had. donald trump's lawyers really tried to muddy the water on it. put some poison in the ear that karen mcdougal got someth
the answer from david pecker, quote, yes. he added, the actual purpose was to acquire lifetime rights so it was not published by any other news organization. pecker said it was standard to suppress stories to help a friend or to use as leverage with a celebrity, this was catch and kill in order to influence a presidential election. now with court adjourned for the weekend, it's all systems go as we head into next week with key testimony still ahead. this is where we start the hour with some of...
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trump pecker acknowledged that negative press for trump's foes was generally good for business pecker said that if the false door man allegations had been true, he would have run the story after the election beauvais elicited from pecker that catch and kill. the term catch and kill buying a story in order to not run it so that it doesn't run anywhere else to protect mr. trump in this case, allegedly, tkatchenko was not discussed at the august 2015 meeting? the defense elicited from packer that he wanted nothing to do with the stormy daniels allegations and the defense made sure to spell out for the jurors that the karen mcdougal deal was reviewed by an election law attorney, jim. do any of these standout to you as important? bits of information for the defense of donald trump for the defense, i would say, you know, in hopefully you set this up an opening statement, but you need to just kinda pound home that were not fighting every single fact that moves in this case, we're not fighting whether or not i wouldn't be fighting the relationships doesn't matter. it's no more than the doorma
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criminality is i think that the prosecutor strategy here is to put a lot of evidence, we heard from pecker a lot of sordid stuff about new york tabloids and were hearing from the banker who is currently [ inaudible ] shady business by michael cohen but if i'm a juror i am thinking when did the dots get connected? i have learned a lot about these tabloids have learned a lot that michael cohen's kind of a shadowy and sketchy character but i'm still hunting right now for evidence of criminal intent and i think as this trial continues the jurors will start getting antsy her and ends here and basically saying show as the beef we want to see evidence of a crime that's over here for. >> and we just got word from inside the courtroom that the jurors have been dismissed we have not gotten word that court is adjourned from the day we will likely see the president when they leave the courtroom there that being said and following up on what tom just said according to pharaoh and reading this again directly every time that michael cohen spoke to me he showed a sense of urgency although he said often no
criminality is i think that the prosecutor strategy here is to put a lot of evidence, we heard from pecker a lot of sordid stuff about new york tabloids and were hearing from the banker who is currently [ inaudible ] shady business by michael cohen but if i'm a juror i am thinking when did the dots get connected? i have learned a lot about these tabloids have learned a lot that michael cohen's kind of a shadowy and sketchy character but i'm still hunting right now for evidence of criminal...
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pecker says yes. prosecutor, at the time you entered into the agreement you had zero intention of publication, even if it would have helped the bottom line. you killed it because it would have hurt president trump. pecker said yes. during the defense cross-examination, they're trying to get out of pecker that this was standard practice, buying these stories, catching and killing, was something they did all the time, and here's the prosecution trying to say no. this was special. were they able to achieve that. >> the defense's argument was you did this for all kinds of celebrities not just donald trump. on redirect, they're saying, was there anything like this relationship with donald trump. the answer, no. and i have to say as soon as david pecker's testimony concluded, celebrity everywhere must have been breathing a sigh of relief. a lot of them got hit with shrapnel. he name dropped a lot of people who probably would have preferred they weren't being named in this testimony. that was part of the exc
pecker says yes. prosecutor, at the time you entered into the agreement you had zero intention of publication, even if it would have helped the bottom line. you killed it because it would have hurt president trump. pecker said yes. during the defense cross-examination, they're trying to get out of pecker that this was standard practice, buying these stories, catching and killing, was something they did all the time, and here's the prosecution trying to say no. this was special. were they able...
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>> i think nate hit on it it is this capitalism versus campaign argument a lot of the things that pecker did were in the best interest of david packer he runs the organization he is a fiduciary duty to do so and a lot of the decisions that he made yes, they may have had an ancillary benefit of benefiting the campaign but they were to benefit ami and a in my pocketbook when i was in the courtroom as well memory was a big issue and you have heard a lot of the discussion for weeks now months about the statute of limitations why is the statute of limitations not in this case the statue limitations are important because our memories wane over time you want any trial that will adjudicate someone's guilt or innocence to be done as close to the time of the event in question we are talking about 2015 or 16 and 17 and the prosecution had an opportunity and this was admitted yesterday by david packer to sit down and train david packer on the testimony, what he was going to say on the stand so his testimony yesterday was pretty good it was pretty fluid for a 72-year-old man today and part of yesterd
>> i think nate hit on it it is this capitalism versus campaign argument a lot of the things that pecker did were in the best interest of david packer he runs the organization he is a fiduciary duty to do so and a lot of the decisions that he made yes, they may have had an ancillary benefit of benefiting the campaign but they were to benefit ami and a in my pocketbook when i was in the courtroom as well memory was a big issue and you have heard a lot of the discussion for weeks now months...
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>>>>case is really rises and falls with david peckers testimony because he is the linchpin behind. their theory of this sort of conspiratorial. scheme. to influence the election. >reporter>trump faces 34 felony counts of falsifying business records. he's accused of funneling so called hush money payments through michael cohen to adult film star stormy daniels before the 2016 election. >>>>it's not a crime if it wasn't done with the purpose of influencing the election. >reporter>the presumptive republican presidential nominee has repeatedly expressed frustration that the trial is keeping him off the campaign trail today, he expressed frustration that it's keeping him from celebrating his wife. melania's birthday. >ryan>and the former president also says he's been following the arguments as the serene court and his immunity case. calling his arguments were brilliant and the justices questions were great. still ahead at noon and streaming on cbs news bay area. housing bay area scientists are working to get a better understanding of our feathered. friends. and local artists are working
>>>>case is really rises and falls with david peckers testimony because he is the linchpin behind. their theory of this sort of conspiratorial. scheme. to influence the election. >reporter>trump faces 34 felony counts of falsifying business records. he's accused of funneling so called hush money payments through michael cohen to adult film star stormy daniels before the 2016 election. >>>>it's not a crime if it wasn't done with the purpose of influencing the...
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former "national enquirer" ceo david pecker. the defense spent hours trying to trip him up, catch him in contradictions, even introducing several instances where they say pecker's recollection of key events had changed over time. but the prosecution got the last word before lunch, getting pecker to admit that karen mcdougal's story would have been "national enquirer" gold, and his decision not to run it was purely to help donald trump. joining me now, nbc's vaughn hillyard outside the courthouse, former federal prosecutor paul butler is back with me. former assistant new york attorney general tristan snell is in studio, and jeremy soland, criminal defense attorney and former manhattan prosecutor. i'm going to start with you because you're a defense attorney and you're new to this table. it's a challenge, right, no matter how many times the defense keeps going back and back and back to david pecker, trying to show this wasn't about the campaign, which is what you did, this is standard operating procedure, they said that over and
former "national enquirer" ceo david pecker. the defense spent hours trying to trip him up, catch him in contradictions, even introducing several instances where they say pecker's recollection of key events had changed over time. but the prosecution got the last word before lunch, getting pecker to admit that karen mcdougal's story would have been "national enquirer" gold, and his decision not to run it was purely to help donald trump. joining me now, nbc's vaughn hillyard...
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pecker said today he does not recall that fbi testimony. trump's lawyers also exposed that business deals may have served as a motivation for pecker to enter a nonprosecution agreement with the southern district of new york for campaign finance violations. pecker testified many of the negative stories he published about trump's opponents already existed in the public domain. he said running negative stories particularly about former president bill clinton and former secretary of state lloyd clinton was good for his business. court started this morning with trump's attorneys clarifying that questions about hick's presence at a trump tower meeting in 2015, pecker said she was in and out of that meeting and her presence is important because it would show a level of campaign involvement in those talks. now just before lunch pecker also spoke about his experience suppressing stories about arnold schwarzenegger and he said he learned from that experience because there was an investigation after he did that so he was much more careful while dealin
pecker said today he does not recall that fbi testimony. trump's lawyers also exposed that business deals may have served as a motivation for pecker to enter a nonprosecution agreement with the southern district of new york for campaign finance violations. pecker testified many of the negative stories he published about trump's opponents already existed in the public domain. he said running negative stories particularly about former president bill clinton and former secretary of state lloyd...