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medical treatment during germany, i've told me all that as well, thanks for being with us. the we are all set and we are watching close to the to bring you the story behind the new the will on about. i'm biased information for free might say do 10 in a, b, b, b, dr. bismark, a for he is busy. the g. p has been working in a medical practice and head of
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a for a year since he arrived significantly more patients with the mines in the background have been coming in the wood has gotten out that that will be well treated. apparently that's not the case every what over the course of the general population has a migrant background. almost 24000000 people. the it is everyone present the same in the gym and health care system, the hello. how are you? yeah. so in amman was case the don't was able to intervene after clinic turn to my way to do to get over it. come every time. yeah. to do the 2nd. yeah. your kidney. yeah.
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you are go doctor, for a diagnosed a manual with suit degree renal congestion, the condition can quickly become dangerous. you sent him to hospital for emergency surgery. so when he arrived, he was turned away at the reception desk. even though he had all the necessary paperwork, he had to make an appointment with the roland. you department. he was told he had no choice but to leaks i may see him outside the clinic and hell knows where it happened. i was sure. oh no, no. i, i stood for about 2 or 3 minutes. i don't help any possibility. louisa. so what i have to do to saw your emergency paper via phone or lender,
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images. people who immediately drove up to the table with a talk to a full retails move that he called the hospital to talk to the receptionist. he said it was a misunderstanding, and the manual should go back to me. so if there's a hard time cannot be just for like i said, but sometimes there's a lot of discrimination with some don't have to forget. and then for course, what you unplugged, teach can result in kidney damage if he hadn't gone back to doctor for a emanuel's renal congestion could have been fatal. all right, to the hospital with questions about the case. the answer. as a general rule,
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no one will be turned away. someone with a medical emergency obviously isn't expected to have an appointment and won't be asked to return after like 2 days or something. but the reality is all from different says dr. a, for a. yeah. all 4 of us has been some such man, i'm violent as i want to admit to patient 2000 and have a phone background kind of, i really worry about them being turned away basically. and that's the deceptive uses of 20. first me been mentioning it's a kind of with someone with an african background when i shut out the referral phones and i make a mental note to follow up. so i don't want to call and ask if everything worked out in front of the for me on and so i probably just clicked it all for me is ok. it's not the only example of racism in the gym and health care system will be
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coming across others. of course, most of us have had some bad experiences with doctors, myself included. however, it happens significantly more often to people with a mind to treat that grant. this is now backed up by the 1st comprehensive study on racism in the gym and health care system, commissioned by the federal ministry for family affairs and carried out but the send us the integration and migration research. the research team led by social scientists, she had sent a new evaluated move in 21000 questionnaires and conducted additional interviews by davia to try and verify in god, cynthia, wherever we turned our focus, we saw problems costs. in some cases, these were delay right now, for example, in terms of getting help, but we also saw in the qualities in terms of appointments yourself. to mean,
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how can we as a society should be alarmed about human rights issues in an area such as health and health care. but we're laser estate, then it's a matter of life and death. the gluten time because i'm tired of certain groups are negatively affected, and even then we as a society, need to be concerned and garbage them to cook and these coffins in tons, items stuff. that's because i just saw from my a policy among the people affected in too many of those who identify as black ation or most of vitamins commission phone to find cover that's causing tax fees and see a guy miss. unless it's another gazette shop. i think the health care system is no different from other social institutions that are only adapting to new demographic and social realities. very slowly i have, i've seen the biggest out the media in the areas we examined, is we see that there are still structures in place and disadvantage and certain groups of equipment that they've been knocked out of 10. we want to know
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how this impacts people's everyday. lots, wait journalists, so we ask the public by instagram within the day people submission detailed accounts of negative experience. it's very common, the very fact that black people are spoken to in english or mostly women are addressed in a certain tone of voice. it happens all the time when i arrived, the emergency doctor took one look at me, turned around and refused to touch me. a doctor who was taking the hippocratic oath would've let me die. and it was because of the color of my skin. in the ambulance, the blue lights are switched off because our boys make a fuss about nothing. my partner doesn't speak german indulgences offices. he is often ignored by the stuff that ours over the don't just themselves say on their websites that they speak english. now we only
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came to the door together. it's doubly humiliating for him not to be able to go to a doctor's office alone. while researching i came across the case of for m. c, she had a problem matic medical history but was fall off with painkillers again and again a not given appropriate diagnosis until the head of the study about after this the past week. i'm not surprised limited. so it is inside that is we can also prove statistically that many muslim women schemes are not taken seriously home homes and sounds good on to that. the move in 2 thirds of the muslim women in the studies said the medical stuff, treat them unfairly or worse, but not that's the face has consequences. 38.9 percent of most of them. women have change doctors because they didn't feel taken seriously. among women who are most affected by racism,
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the stick it is 28.8 percent. the condition of defaults to across the spectrum to build up. the research shows that there are certain prejudices regarding this when women in that their passive you have emotional, irrational. i've been on the, there's also the cliche that they're very dramatic about pain with a key. she often apply to people from turkey, especially women. when it is that they exaggerate their pain symptoms or their hyper sensitive hide in the took off either she had some to patrick at subscribed. we visit rooms in low ascent sneak. she seems to have been a victim of exactly this kind of thinking. her family documented her experience. hello. although she was seriously ill and spent weeks in hospital, she was given an accurate diagnosis. as a result,
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she has lost in health issues which has taken its toll. today, ramsey a can hardly walk and is quickly exhausted. she had to give up to a job as a cleanup. she doesn't speak much jim and but understands everything. we say it'll began with the sudden severe back pain in january 2021. she could hardly move and was racked by pain in the middle of the night, her daughter called an ambulance ramsey was hospitalized for 10 days. and diagnosed with new rich compression seemed trying to come from the machine you miss to want to read them sent to me. that was the to
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in the said to me, we did just nothing wrong with you. the get up, hit on the and then everyone was saying, the results show you don't have anything she gets off on the don't make such a fuss or the talk loud. let me share y'all's meal. my name, what type is my mother would call me at night during those 10 days and say we're not doing anything is i'm in so much pain that i wish i could die reversed. she was a screaming and pain on the phone at night and i'm saying please, but tell me they're doing something nurse, i don't want to live. i can't take it anymore. house, they me name typical. zoomed a treaty to me like that because i'm to can choose from. it wouldn't have happened to a gym and a woman. thank you. begin to open the doctor's file to identify a life threatening heart valve. information either have or heart valve you. this is how many by 3 dc a severe back pain can indicate serious open disease. that's why the diagnostics was so important.
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the right to the hospital family filed a written complaint. the clinic is well aware of the case. a spokes person writes to me that there is no way of investigating how nurse spoke to ramsey, and that some feedback pine is not association with heartfelt inclination. but there are now jim and hot central and munich disagrees back pain might well be a symptom of heart valve information. another indication that ramsey is complaints were not taken seriously. took place fits when his pain didn't subside. the family went back to her doctor to try and get her referral for another hospital . doctor mine and what's i'll see under 56 bits of petitioners,
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my mother back to the doctor to admit her to another hospital. he says the doctor got angry and said, you're not going to hospital, there's nothing wrong with you. hospitalization this. then we were simply sent home . you don't know how to go sick. sailed we kept all the paperwork. she contacted the practice 6 more times, becoming increasingly desperate. 5, this points grandmother had tools and fever. one kind of them is in the puts you into instance. you can't keep bobbing off a patient to the thing. they just have depression, they're meant a possible investment. i can understand that even as a general practitioner, the 1st thing you do is look at test results from the hospital, them on it before. that doesn't matter. if you see something is wrong, you can say ok, i don't know. and the issue 5, which is i'm going to refer you to hospital, i'm was kind of, well that's not what happened to this hung image, because instead according to the family ramsey, it was told over the phone,
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but the doctor's assistant, but she had depression and i'm in a proposal symptoms, it was only the point when she could no longer eat and drink that she finally got a hospital referral from the doctor. this time she was admitted to clinic and her last 6 weeks off to ramsey is 1st complained of pain. she finally got her diagnosis, advanced hot valve inflammation, adult trip this call, special hard to kind of cause. she was indirectly involved with the case posted. it bounces on instagram a case of discrimination in the health care system that almost cost the patient to night. unfortunately, the hospital failed to carry out sufficient test, despite time levels of inflammation. instead, the patient was sent home with pain can let's,
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she saw several more doctors because she was still in severe pain despite taking painkillers. she was told she was exaggerating the problem as far and as do eventually this family hired a lawyer then now demanding compensation from the doctor and the hospital. but how likely have a to win the case. and then move cation vancho, scalar. um, this is kind of what we have the possible treatment error during the hospital stay and see if they should have investigated earlier and more thoroughly. and um, you know, cuz it got to him with the, with the house at stuart street. and there's the doctor. i think is when she heard there was a fever and shows she should have reacted immediately on cummings only about a 3rd of all medical malpractice cases, a successful in cold humphrey, my racism really plays a role
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a nice little so it's doesn't offline is expensive and dr. drew, from my perspective, there are explicit races, cliches to play here with people with the migration background, supposedly exaggerate or even fix their pains. but the fact is that racism and discrimination is very difficult to prove this. give it some advice on that. it's being proven, the racism is an issue for people applying for apartments. so jobs, racism in the gym and health care system has not been properly investigated, even though it can be a matter of life. so is it just a question of individuals who consciously or unconsciously behaves in a racist way? or is the problem systemic doctor or for his practice in hello is that as a general practitioner, he often use as a post oxy mesa. this measures the patient's blood oxygen saturation based on light
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rays that penetrate the schemes. however, after years of experience, he no longer trusts the device. does the device look the same for every patient? and i go back and 9 know clearly not. it's often not accurate when measuring oxygen levels in people with darkest skin tones. i don't always rely on that 100 percent too much pressure collected initially when we put $0.10 a whole bunch. would you use the pulse oxy mesa for a black patient to short of breath? very simple look if we have it. i don't know if a patient a short of breath, i'd say, based on these symptoms and why they need to hosp to check off. i don't was a lot of clear. i don't know. now that both of us do you have dark skin yourself? what is it? the device doesn't work. yeah, in one of the things that's in place. you're right at the end of the day. it's not
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optimal for you. you can also control tomorrow, videos wise. but if you know that the problem exists, come on, you can try to work around this because of what i'm going to do, what you can, but so there on to the negative surprise estimate on interview visit the hash. the us study from 2020 showed that dangerously low oxygen levels are almost 3 times more likely to go undetected in black patients than in wind a serious problem. the became especially at to join the global credit. vic 19 pandemic. the, the reason why the pulse oxy mesa doesn't always give reliable readings is because it was designed for white skin. suppose it know a prime example of structural racism in medicine for on fixed like the doctor is not before he is aware of the obstacles his patients face and does his best to look around them. giving
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a patient the attention they need when is a language barrier, for example, is time consuming. it can take longer to the 8 minutes a dr. spends on average with the patient in germany according to the professional code of conduct physicians who patients must be treated equally due to them. yeah. put all day and even in japan, we have come to talk to might tell a patient to come back with an interpreter. would you even though mission one, hosting basically. so yeah. products get resolved, given those in the in the instance when you leave, like on, on their home visit. they hear yeah. seriously enough.
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people hear english racism patients sent to layer of is the right people was we hope we don't benefit from us it. but let me just finish the strong distinguish presentation, tomato, even if it is based off of it, it just tell the people these like stems failed. so i see he's a biased it's a it's rich.
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get too cute. because students want to change the vision. they tend to chat. this is emma told she and hi patrick is luke talk in i'm it is a congress not the white applies on how this season you've missed this case. so let's pull di, comforting to get this simple off . i dont immediate yeah. so total is it so that goes to the end of the house, getting colors and some learned and on how problems you can. how do you
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know you the feeling that i'm fond of? the bills are lying fast on energy because that's you know monday the title to move out dangerous type disease like measles. because in the glove should see assessment, i would contact tom viewing the german english office medical school because of the change in the medicine
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over the medical students just like that. we teach and i get to the cities could grow strong in medicine address, high sierra the workshop and medicine says degree if you can count, it is possible. this model says how can i figure cuz it stops? yes. for the wednesday it should have been as 5. nope. nope. has
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changed. respond actually have a nation is stuff been puddle with? that's fine. but you have some issues that you just pay the prism in the mid term. it's around the same table the that patient because the german is, uh, as it doesn't say anything about what the age most precious is. i just want me to i think we're in clinic because i've,
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i've done the length of stuff but sometimes very over have to ask them why to lot of. so there is fine sheet which would make 6 well entry will. those tools will be system in this isn't one z rate of pay and the delivery rooms isn't the problem. she's nice. does a problem she hopes to change this scope. this will
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cost us both. must i'm supposed to be. i know everyone does. that's cool. i think the would racism makes it home a try that will. but if we use the term it's the pressure to assume it would be easier to talk about racism is something shipped to food topics is yeah. think of right wing extremist of as many of nazis and design live tv, but the most popular phone, usually stuff with these midwives have witnessed races in between. and if she wants to get to a place that can be highly stressful and strap have to cope with a lot of people under stress are more likely to react in a way that's racist. reacting in a sensitive way is not your pay great. you're paid to look after 5 women at once, i guess as if i'm your 1st reaction is always, oh, why was being racist?
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i'm, i don't mean, but then when you think deeper, you realize that you do have to sit and ask them that's installed a new, a new start to wonder why stuff the fund league. and then i'd say there are colleagues who have been in the profession for a long time, who don't have that self awareness. divorce is all, it can be very defensive. if you talk to them pointed out to them, they'll say, well, i didn't mean it like that. do you have any sort of mind? i think it's good if clinics also, ricky, let's training courses. and again, it's a question of time and money, and ultimately hospitals will to change who ramsey is. life hasn't been the same since the heart valve in fiction. she tells me
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today she has a mechanical hot files, inflammation and become so fat. antibiotics didn't work. after high risk operation and actually in her legs the st. and she had to have emergency surgery since then her right leg has been up. she has to be careful not to strange. that's one of the reasons why she had to give up work for the ship like beams hunting and we shall we have them give this on shaky the can i feel empty inside the gym? useless. i have nothing to do. i know what the work was my 2nd time. now it's gone 1st place to do it them can today she's at a checkup appointment in the same hospital was she had heart surgery?
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yeah. this i love to be receiving is to be honest the she doesn't have hopes the testing. so she thinks things won't get better. just kind of say it's less the most to put to is that she says if they had recognize her, her problem earlier for like would be okay. this way, please enter that. you can put your things that i'm able to. she was insisting ramsey has ruptured like gosh, rate the doctor checks the blood circulating properly. this looks good. it's turned out well placed click of on the switches to it. i'm so glad i can't believe there's positive news because i know you can see the pub
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circulation is fine, but when you press on, great, cuz the good news and thank you very much. but the trauma runs dates to the family, hopes the lawyer will make sure ramsey is compensated for who's suffering each kind of good service to help cover for my not all the money in the world won't bring back my mother's heart valves into the for the, for us, it's about these people being penalized but they might not get what they want. a lawyer ma, so silly tells me the doctors are unlikely to apologize for medical malpractice out . of course, if they did that, liability insurance might refuse to cover the costs. besides the community and this means that they usually refrain from comments and don't
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apologize cycle in the sense of admitting responsibility and see i understand with the source question the this is why patients often end up taking the cases to cool the feed them done. so there's no mutual under the many clients wouldn't take legal action if doctors admitted responsibility. gonzagos vazo, it's about a medical malpractice, almo, but it's also but this ignorance and this lack of sensitivity on the part of medical personnel. m. c, a for example, law school sites and heard that lack of trust is reflected in the gym and white study which shows the 12.8 percent of most. and women avoid or delay seeing a doctor for fear of not being taken seriously to seek it is 6.3 percent for women who are not affected by racism is in front of them because on tests.
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because because we see, especially in the health sector fall in the matter when someone experiences discrimination and racism because their trust disappears up and we're losing these people and they're turning away from the health care system to suppose to protect themselves from what i mentioned. it fits media on mon did get an apology for what happened to her. in december 2021, she went to a hospital in frankfort with severe stomach pain. a scene you talk to sola or have ms. i saw his eskimo mishaps of the mileage mass and so actually he just didn't take me seriously. i told him how i was painted in my by have the impression that he was taking it seriously and, and i tell you that binds you afford us to his insight. i kept insisting the pain wasn't no more hold on. he said to me, well,
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the glass you'll hear haven't because we will ammons, you'd be dead by now. if you were in africa twins tech. i was upset by the idea that i should be great. so i'm allowed to be head of schools. i've done quite us, we use lined up can she grew up in germany that knows all too well what it's like to be perceived as different items and slices. and by this new victory says they asked me if i knew it was serious because i was in so much pain. and then he said, that's your jam. and that's really good. that's high. i think it was like, just haven't listened to anything like that bad to have what asked them to sit in this. all i noticed was how i spoke gym and my knowledge and that's a problem that's as best as best to blame that from a local politician. mine was so shocked that you posted a video and instagram from the hospital test this how? it's how you smoke this also no, my,
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i asked him is the pay numer schmidt and he said, you know, my pain is never normal, but you will kind of have chips come out with it better than other people. so it's terrible to be at most of these people you've got most of the political scene was a human being, especially in the video, got hundreds of thousands of views and a barrel of hateful comments to upset the adult to shoot and put you down the monkey you look like a prehistoric african with that face, or are you walking upright yet or on all fours? like a primate mon also received hundreds of messages from other people who'd experienced racism in the health care system. then me a good amount of glass of white. if it happened to me today,
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the snow i do is to get some excess drawing attention to the problem is the only way when we have against racism. i'm the balance on trust the top as well, and that's eyes on the empathy. i'm the guy who's story took an unexpected turn. the doctor apologized. mine is convinced that this only happened because she's a politician. she also managed to get the hospital for organize anti racism workshops for it stops. this is the main, the all stab dicey might tell us because pointing out what happened is on an individual level between people and that when this is unacceptable and ignorant. but the problem is also structural. it's institutional, it's one, it's the university's is the hospital. next, like bodies, happy life humanized, like colonial assembling. and this was an immensely
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spice of scientific progress medicine. it seems in many ways to be stuck in the 19 sixty's. it's norms, no longer a flags out of the society way and do the district. however, on kids that make change so difficult come from some of the contemporary health care systems in equities have deep brutes, has medical historians, pretty boston explains this of this across fuzzies yesterday and we couldn't. science can advance very quickly once there's new research on about it can take a long time for structural change to happen in god's done as a sort of using those in germany's until the end of the 19 sixty's. only a few people have to say in hospitals, the family had unlimited power in your st, and they made all the decisions that's in the 1st months that changed in the late sixty's. but it takes generations to change structures,
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resources for one done even to get into that. and of course in a system in which people are earning very well in the future is going to be very hierarchical. indeed, as soon as the opinions tutton x s t n, see if you hi. so, so you have to look at the medical history museum and handbook sleeve. austin should slice on milky chapters in the history of gym and medicine. d. that's it. and that's for this shift to them, be the teams, for example, the history of racial prejudice funding, or even i could, was of german science contributed to racist views of black people, the opportunity and kind of take renown. jim and physician and micro biologist rather to call. he conducted drug trials in a form the british colony in east africa. many people here suffered from sleeping sickness call experimented on them using a remedy containing arsenic. his goals together dos for the treatment,
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pharmaceutical industry, and once and whatnot. it to the pizza stuff. concord, people that call to should robert cox experiments with sleeping sickness. patients led to blindness, the trials to police and what he called concentration comes. patients were crammed together and treated until they no longer should symptoms of the disease kind of people try to escape and that's why they were held by force also by some massive forces. me to find that for one must even call test if he's remedy on more than a 1000 people a day. many died in the process to precise fetus unknown. here the fish that thoughts and these experiments play a very important role in the history of the german pharmaceutical industry has been full. it was a precursor to antibiotics. one's an active ingredient is still in use today. i
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hate to dish a nobel prize winner robot call conducted research to treated black patients a sub human simmons, which these are forced to them from the on give you some snaps. i'm afraid there is early evidence of this idea that black people are insensitive to pain talk. oh, it was a factor in the beat legitimacy of slavery like spots i mentioned to them. and the idea was widespread up the time the blind people were insensitive to mainland incidence that it was used to justify physically harming them as a target this somebody is missing. so if it were already scientific arguments against that idea, come said people, sensitivities of them are all the same. size of these ideas are assisted. he's a stem which is a flushed at on the height is unsigned in. and they remain damaging as illustration by merely on mom's case.
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the problem of racism in the gym and health care system has come to the attention of the handbook. shame that the physicians, president pet drum and mom is it's starting to be discussed this all the tests here in his own thoughts space. and in this case, i'm quite, i think that in the health care system as a whole, we often have difficulty embracing change with the to a certain extent. there. and there are society in society as a whole. does this have to be done to is find it easy to deal with painful questioning progress. this means that we need us, a veterans for the future going on for the to quit, certainly won't be easy to most, most on off to shot from the policy status of houston office on for the organization now has an anti racism, counseling center cases of discrimination are reported from all as a germany and protection of by doctors with problems that work to allow me
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5 is a gentle approach. is covered as this, and is it there should be like this feel free to of a tough and then i think it's very difficult by default on the for those affected most control. so for those who hacked and racist way, so knowing they are not, it's not always easy to be confronted with that. that's exactly what i think we need to be careful with all criticism that we need to strength of ryan tongue. so we don't tiny, and i my whole thing zones and otherwise of is nothing more trying to the lot of people will become increasingly compelling. arise once they have to fund off on the parentheses, family, any changes or ready to light the damage cost is give us a simple it's still not clear with the show ever get the apology. she wants
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to get us started and some people should be listened to only no matter where they come from. no one should be putting to signs from you all i want is my health to faith in jim niece, health care system has been shaken for good. the sure you see on the most successful car insurance not taking himself too seriously, makes the australian male dominic
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